Does not Paul say salvation is in the power of our tongues confession? Thank you for your kind words. Start Smaller. You have to get the understanding from God. He was prepared to. Your comment is interesting. Martha did not believe that Jesus would raise her brother Lazarus from the dead (John 11:2324, 39), but our Savior resurrected him anyway (vv. Yes, I have the final word on what gets published, but that only applies when people are being unduly combative or promoting things I cant promote. Any insights with this is much appreciated. How did God respond? First, youre taking 1 Corinthians 14:33 completely out of context. Steven Furtick doesn't seem like a womanizer or a manipulator. Oneness has God interacting with Himself, as if He were three separate people. So #1 is debunked. I think your all wrong you all a I have religious spirit like the Pharisees because Pastor Steve speak the truth and you cant handle the truth -you water down the word of truth make hard -this is my opinion Shame on all you all one you be judges for accusing your brother in Christ instead of support him -you you dont look good pick part everything that you dont like only have itching ears you are like your father the devil may God help you all. Similarly, today a Doctor would tell a 21st century man to lay off coffee, an over used source of stomach (acid) trouble. Jesus, in, Is anything too hard for the Lord? I appreciate the fact that you did your homework! If there were a better choice, God would have made it instead. The blind man said unto him, Lord, that I might receive my sight. Truly, thats implied throughout both the Old Testament and the New Testament and its one of the ways we know which teachings are true and which are false. When we read Revelation in full, we see that it is both a group of personal letters from Jesus to seven real-life churches in Asia Minor, and a prophetic vision given to John. Steven Furtick's birthstone is Amethyst. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. He created laws, then needed to break them because He didnt foresee the circumstances that would require Him to break the law. If the truth sets us free, then lies keep us bound. Sure, if a false teacher is someone who says false things, but on this scripture we are discussing Matthew 13:58, I will stand with collaborating scripture I have shared and with Matthew Henry, and with Furtick, if need be. It reminded me of conversations I have often had concerning Christs fulfillment of the law. These limits are self-imposed, of course and they are chosen to produce the best outcome. I really appreciate your conclusion as it shows compassion and love. Are you asking because you dont know, or are you trying to make a point? Seems like a foundational idea on which other bad ideas are built. He saves us. Now true, God does give us the measure of faith per scripture Romans 12:13, yet we must use that which is given. I have questions, and I hope you can take a deep breath and answer them clearly. See for yourself what the Bible says. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.. The most proper method is known as exegesis, or reading out of Scripture. Will be a week or so. Instead, Christ could not do many miracles because the circumstances under which the Lord readily shows Himself were not present. I teach this very plainly: bad things are always bad, and never good. Is that what Christianity is being saved? 3. But he said unto her, Daughter, be of good comfort: thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace. This goes along with him also saying; According to your faith be it unto you. Matthew 9:29. Yes, we agree that Jesus had the power to heal and that His healing was a combination of compassion for those who suffered and a declaration of His identity as Messiah. Let me know if theres some other way I can help, beyond praying (which Im doing right now). Meanwhile, I see a whole generation being deceived. Why do you stare at us as if by our own power or godliness we had made this man walk? That would make Him subordinate to the law, and to the one who gave the law. I wonder how many on this forum have a biblical salvation experience ? Hes clearly a gifted communicator, and based on the growth of his congregations likely a gifted leader as well. Narcigesis is a new word. Do you believe that God is a molecular structure? Fritz was born on July 15th, 1882 in Sandy Run, South Carolina. I do not agree with His saying; What God did when he sent his son [he] broke the Law for love. Is totally wrong, for because of the Law (as you know this), Christ had to come as a perfect man, just like the law says, a perfect lamb was to be sacrificed, for Thanks. I would like to know how to reach out to him and make him see that when he listens to these guys hes being affected, but he should know this. The New Testament is full of warnings about false teachers, and you dont appear to take those things very seriously. May it never be! Feel free to build yourself a palace full of nickels. He was making himself known by his visual works of power, as he told the evil hearted Scribes ; For whether is easier, to say, your sins be forgiven you; or to say, Arise, and walk? I know this is off-topic from your post, but it struck me enough to lead me to comment. Removing the copyright information violates that agreement and makes you guilty of, essentially, piracy: using their intellectual property for your own benefit without compensation. Tony, I know you dont need a cheering section or anything, but I cant help it when you make points I have been saying for years. It has five bedrooms and seven bathrooms. In the world of the Word of Faith movement, God CANNOT do ANYTHING on earth without us giving Him permission. Thank you for all your help! Holly Furtick, Follower of Jesus, is an American author who has written several books for children like Charlotte's Web, Ramona the Pest etc. This is not a simple theological error, or a questionable interpretation of a particular Bible verse. It would be a mistake to apply these penalties to any other passage of Scripture, as the context will not allow us to do so. First, it contradicts Scripture. According to Christian Headlines, Steven Furtick, senior pastor and founder of Elevation Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, spoke Sunday from Luke 5:1-11 about Jesus asking Simon Peter to become his disciple. Not Dead Yet. I also added my own clarifying comments to the citation. Im often asked to assess what others teach. And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lords glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit. No, think using the word could in Matthew 13:58 is not as heretical as you make it, since it is used here in Mark 6:5,6 in relation to lack of faith, for any reason. This belief isnt like saying that children should be baptized, or like thinking that Christians would be better off being kosher. The Trinity of God is like man being a spirit having a soul and living in body. But whoever does not have them is nearsighted and blind, forgetting that they have been cleansed from their past sins. Unfortunately, his understanding of Psalm 78:41 is off-base. Singular: just like in English, the number of subjects that the verb applies to. You can SAY that youre right, but you cant responsibly use Scripture to show that youre right. Whats the conclusion? Its an observation. That seems important, doesnt it? To paraphrase 1 Corinthians 2:14, spiritual things are Spiritually discerned. Is Steven Furtick TRYING to pervert the gospel, or has he simply not yet been led into all truth? Christians are to be Torah-observant, except for sacrificing animals. Study the Scriptures. Youve already agreed that God is not limited by a persons lack of faith. I just came to this discussion after hearing an amazing worship song on You Tube from Elevation Worship. Thats a yes or no question, by the way. You have to see yourself healed [in your heart] before you see yourself healed [in reality]. Judge not yet you be judged. Some are saved through Steven Furticks ministry but not solely because of what he teaches. What gives you the right to say who is or is not of God every Pastor gives there interpretation of what the Bible is saying. From start to finish, this is wrong. This is an entirely unbiblical idea, condemned throughout all of church history as heretical. Unfortunately, based on his own words, hes not like that. The Proverb gains so much more meaning as you examine what actually happens during the sharpening process. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. Apparently he holds the orthodox view of the triunity of God, at least in his doctrinal statement. Jude 1:3-4. This is an ancient heresy that has been condemned throughout church history. Jesus was. If Im wrong, Im wrong and correcting me is doing me a huge favor. Youve encouraged me twice first by your gratitude, and second by letting the world know that youre paying attention! Every pastor gives their interpretation of what the Bible is saying (Ive been a licensed minister, so youre talking about me). This is a common practice among those in the Word of Faith and New Apostolic Reformation movements: making claims that sound good, that have no basis in Scripture, that cant be contradicted directly because theyre created out of thin air. But we know Christ is near and and LTrain is close to his reward," read Pastor Furtick's message earlier in the day that he had titled "Dad's final round with ALS. JOIN Elevation Church Sunday Service at 11:30AM with Steven Furtick, Live Stream March-05-2023. Thanks, Again, thanks. The question is whether a teacher directly contradicts the Bible, or adds to the Bible in a way that compromises the truth in it. First, that doesnt match what we read in Scripture. Steven Furtick is the founder and main pastor of Elevation Church, one of the fastest-growing churches in the United States. Dont pretend that you know my heart, either. Every word that came out of His mouth was the Father speaking. Answer Steven Furtick is the lead pastor of Elevation Church, based near Charlotte, North Carolina. Dont trust me. Not the Steven Furtick you were looking for? Youre right Steven Furtick doesnt seem like a womanizer or a manipulator. As another scripture that captures this faith concept is Jesus saying; According to your faith be it unto you. Matthew 9:29. God has given us great promises in His Word, including promises of health and wholeness, as Jesus died on the cross to redeem us from sin and sickness. If you don`t have the opportunity to visit Elevation Church, you can see Steven Furtick`s sunday sermon on the official Facebook page or on YouTube channel or use the link on our website. Jakes and Steven Furtick. The Word of Faith movement, for example, tends to place the blame on weak faith whenever a person is not healed of a disease. Even Sproul (who you quoted earlier) does so by saying The circumstances by which God the Holy Spirit unleashed [Christs] power were not available there, because there was a judgment of God on the town of Nazareth. I dont mean that you might create a circumstance where God has already made decisions about what will happen, as when someone dies after a lifetime of rebellion. No worries. Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions. There are plenty of us out there. Id be happy to help! Its the result of twisting Scripture, not of careful study. Hes not alone, unfortunately. Furtick is a pastor for the Elevation Church and owns a property with his wife of 8,400 square feet in Waxhaw, NC. Other translations, using thousands of additional ancient and biblical manuscripts, render it differently. It completely ignores a multitude of clear Bible passages, in which we see that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are not the same as each other. And if you have so go into such length to disprove a blessed church you are the deceiver please reach out to me on this matter and lets pray on it ..In Jesus name I ask or be held accountable . Its also biblical. If not, then you would agree that Furticks statement about Gods nature is wrong. And without the necessary attitude described above, we are apt to fall for the logic of those who are disingenuous, self-seeking teachers who take advantage of the flock. Theres a technical and legal side to this, too. If healing belongs to us, why was Paul never healed? Be like a Berean and test everything including what I say here with Scripture. Consequently, Jesus could give no further confirmation of His identity that they would accept. Your mention of John 3:18 sounds an awful lot like Furticks conclusion in that same sermon, which I have not yet added to the article above: that Jesus inability to perform the miracles He wanted to perform was caused by the peoples lack of belief IN THEMSELVES. Acts 18:8 We should say what the Bible says, and we should not say what the Bible does not say. I used to love Steven Furtick but now I see he is up there with Joel Osteen and all the other greasy guys. So no, modalism is not a false doctrine. (Psalm 116:15 NIV)." I could list other verses that show the Holy Spirit is also distinct from the Father and Son, of course. In case anyone wonders whether Furtick misspoke, theres more. He appears to be a genuine person that is, I dont see him as a liar who poses as a follower of Jesus for personal gain. Rather than being God, Jesus to them is a created being. After all, Christ did heal when people had weak faith. Yes, youre setting him up. There are older translations that do render tava as limit, but thats not what the word means. The verse reads your held accountable not your better and not the same we are all the Same under Gods eyes you need to address this I challenge you to show your accusations of this man I want to see proof not your own understanding because you are incorrect what the verse says that you are standing on.. and Ill pray your convicted to see the right over the wrong . There are two primary ways that people interpret Scripture. Think Furtick problem maybe just being ignorant of the word, proud. I just want the truth which I believe I can only find through prayer, study and revelation. You take out of the passage what is already there what everybody sees. Here are the ways that better translations render tava: vexed, provoked, pained, distressed, caused terrible pain, offended. God bless you brother. The best analogy Ive come across and the one that Ive found is not only the most useful but the most accurate, is the term family. GodWords exists to point people in the direction of Scripture for all things, not to provide a place for everybody to say whatever they want. Its important to keep our eye on the actual question at hand. A defining feature of most Word of Faith teachers is known as the little gods doctrine. The very nature of the gospel is that Jesus died in our place, so Furticks error on this matter touches on the most important subjects in Scripture. That we should ignore his false teaching is not. In John 4 Jesus healed a noblemans son in spite of his lack of faith and Jesus did it without the permission and, ostensibly the faith, of the son. Hi there! You have to get the understanding from God. The trouble comes, of course, when we pretend that our insertion is the truth. Is anything too hard for me? Typically, oneness folks will cut and run when asked to defend their view. As for helping your father, that can be tough. Thats bad. If saved , is the man that teaches error deliberately contradicting the Holy Spirit ? A very simple way to assess anyones belief system is to ask them about the nature of God. Of the many false things they preach, these are two things I hear the most: 1) Jesus healed everyone he encountered. This is in line with a common teaching in the Word of Faith movement: that our faith only manifests what is already true in the spiritual realm. Once your father expresses that modalism is false, and tells you what you should say to a friend who believes in modalism, you can say it back to him. What youve written is typical oneness doctrine. You are right. When we look in the mirror, however, it doesnt seem that He guides us into all truth right away. He noted that a prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home. Verse 58 says this: And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith. God becomes a lawbreaker in order to save lawbreakers from His own Law, putting God in conflict with Himself. You have raising from the dead power on the inside of you, and you have to see it. However: if Furtick is right, who are we showing Gods nature to? In my experience, people who are willing to be led by the Holy Spirit into a clear understanding of Scripture will change their minds easily. Frankly, I doubt it. Theyre very explanatory. Steven Furtick is an excellent communicator. Im not chastising you, but making a point for all to see that the text is our source, and our interpretations should be entirely dependent on the text. Modalism is the unbiblical idea that there is one God who is only one person and that when we see the Father, Son, and Spirit, we are seeing three different manifestations of the same single person. The word in Romans 10:9 thats translated you will be saved is a verb. Thus if a family is comprised of a father, a mother and a son, nobody thinks there are three families or one person with three personalities or such like. Its based on the dominion idea that Adam inadvertently gave dominion to Satan in the Garden of Eden, and that God had to create a scheme to trick Satan and get dominion back. Steven Furtick's age: 41 years as of 2021; Parents: Faith Liles Furtick and Larry Stevens Furtick (1952-2013) Nationality: American; Steven Furtick's ethnicity: White; Schools attended: Berkeley High School, North Greenville University, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary; Religion: Christian; Steven Furtick's YouTube: Official Steven Furtick Because of the cares of the world, the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires for other things. There are too many to list like this, showing that there was a two fold ministry, of both his revealed power and his response to faith. I have had an on again, off again relationship with my faith throughout the years. So many are just so full of an arrogant and jealous spirit that it deters away from the truth they are giving. But right, Paul was not so special a case that he would be the only one God dealt with weakness, but his special case was because of abundance of revelations, and not for the reason of sin, like David revealed; Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word. Psalm 119:67.
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