And we merely follow".[38]. For more information, please see our [16] Whenever a wendigo ate another person, it would grow in proportion to the meal it had just eaten, so it could never be full. But overall I can't stand JKR. As a concept, wendigo can apply to situations other than some Native American-European relations. .mw-parser-output .verse_translation .translated{padding-left:2em}@media only screen and (max-width:43.75em){.mw-parser-output .verse_translation.wrap_when_small td{display:block;padding-left:0.5em}.mw-parser-output .verse_translation.wrap_when_small .translated{padding-left:0.5em}}, Ce qui nous mit plus en peine, fut la nouvelle que nous apprismes ds l'entre du Lac, sauoir: que les deputez par nostre Conducteur, qui deuoient conuoquer les Nations la Mer du Nord, et leur donner le rendez-vous pour nous y attendre, auoient est tuez l'Hiuer pass, d'une faon estonnante. Thank god I am not from USA, where this seems to be an issue. But if they actually did, I would pick another monster from the giant Pandemonium one has at one's choice. Dont look at it! But, but, what if they're looking at something that erodes the moral fabric of civilization? Even in the face of ongoing cultural appropriation and erasure, wendigo stories are but one reflection of the survivance, wisdom, and brilliance of Native peoples. [28] He eventually confessed and was executed by authorities at Fort Saskatchewan. This was the end of this Giant Windigo. . without permission. The Witherell House and the Cult of Weird, Movie Review: BIRDS OF PREY (And the Fantabulous Inclusion of Victor Zsasz and a Hyena). But Native Americans shouldn't be a "niche," and neither should women, LGBT people, or people of color. I mean yeah I see what your saying, personally I do research on what its about even if I don't use it in it's entirety. So, thanks, Dave! This topic was automatically closed 30 days after the last reply. New replies are no longer allowed. [56], Various characters inspired by the legend, or named for it, appear in Role-playing video games, such as 2018's Fallout 76 by Bethesda Game Studios, where wendigos are featured as one of the cryptid enemies found in the area of Appalachia, mutated from people who consumed human flesh in isolation. As a creator, I believe it is my responsibility, the responsibility of any creator, if using characters that belong to a culture other than mine and exploring themes from that culture, to be accurate. Idiots have just made a religion out of being racist about culture and only allowing genetic descendants to participate in cultures. Ces pauures gens furent saisis, ce qu'on nous a dit, d'vn mal qui nous est inconnu, mais qui n'est pas bien extraordinaire parmy les peuples que nous cherchons: ils ne sont ny lunatiques, ny hypocondriaques, ny phrenetiques; mais ils ont vn mlange de toutes ces sortes de maladies, qui, leur blessant l'imagination, leur cause vne faim plus que canine, et les rend si affamez de chair humaine, qu'ils se iettent sur les femmes, sur les enfans, mesme sur les hommes, comme de vrais loups-garous, et les deuorent belles dents, sans se pouuoir rassasier ny saouler, cherchans tousiours nouuelle proye, et plus auidement que plus ils en ont mang. I do not possess the cultural or social knowledge required. Posted by [clarification needed] The ceremony, known as wiindigookaanzhimowin, was performed during times of famine, and involved wearing masks and dancing backward around a drum. Humans could also turn into wendigos by being in contact with them for too long. His line of questioning effectively asks what if the monstrosity we face is actually not an otherworldly presence but our all too human selves?. Cultural appropriation by a dominant culture is harmful to underrepresented cultures because it reduces cultural significance and reinforces double standards. And you know what? It is unknown if it would have been an entire species or a singular creature. Truly insensitive cultural appropriation is when you're taking a part of another culture and portraying it in a deliberately insensitive or disrespectful manner. (Anything that isnt outright vandalism isnt likely to harm the statue at all, but I wouldnt dare do anything disrespectful around it. Eat what you want to eat, tattoo yourself with whatever you want to tattoo yourself with, wear what you want to wear, and let those ove Continue Reading More answers below We do the same thing with a lot of mythological creatures. Cultural appropriation definition, the adoption, usually without acknowledgment, of cultural identity markers from subcultures or minority communities into mainstream culture by people with a relatively privileged status. Privacy Policy. That will depend on who you ask. . "** 40. Basically, the word wendigo can also function as a symbol for gluttony and the image of excess. Only assholes think thats offensive. I believe that the Wendigo is far older than that, far more primal. By the mid-1990s, it had gained a solid place in academic discourse, particularly in the field of sociology. I know what cultural appropriation is but Ive not been as involved in social justice as I used to be and I guess its showing. And whoever!). Thus I support Scott Cooper, the director of the forthcoming (hopefully by next spring) ANTLERS, in his efforts to seek out consultation from Indian advisors when making his movie, which features a Wendigo. It was created by Mayuki . From Stephen Kings Pet Sematary to the television series Hanibal, the flesh-eating image of the wendigo is often presented apart from its original cultural contexts where it carries deep moral significance. The e-book is here, and you can get a paperback copy here.). Send them to Marvel. Replying to @luciproletariatfox #culturalappropriation #wendigoon, #yeti #wendigo #voodoodoll #culturalappropriation, #duet with @firelotusthewitch #culturalappropriation #vvitchtok #vvitch #witchywoman #pagantok #norsepagan #norsetok #pagansoftiktok #pagancommunity, I am curious to hear the opinions of others on this one. Doing so is an honorable endeavorbut only if we actually do our homework first. The heroes of books I read, movies I watched, and games I played almost exclusively looked like me when I was growing up, people I could easily identify with. As a concept, the wendigo can apply to any person, idea, or movement infected by a corrosive drive toward self-aggrandizing greed and excessive consumption, traits that sow disharmony and destruction if left unchecked. He was eating the juice (marrow) from the inside of the bones of his legs that were cut off. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. There, he uses the cannibalistic wendigo as a metaphor for the behaviors and attitudes central to patterns of social domination visited upon his own people in the Americas and subjugated peoples everywhere. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Nitty gritty. He ultimately was granted a pardon but died three days later in jail before receiving the news of this pardon. Halloween is literally a holiday (most Americans see it as a good excuse to dress as a sexy cat or whatever, but there are actually still people left who believe it's sacred and who perform rituals etc for the holiday). Mythical being in Native American folklore, "Windigo" redirects here. The Cambridge Dictionary, defines it as "the act of taking or using things from a culture that is not your own, especially without showing that you understand or respect this culture."And a lot of times, it is marked by a dominant culture taking from one that has been colonized and oppressed . I think people just need to chill out, no mater what their religion and culture is. No they ain't. With its bones pushing out against its skin, its complexion the ash gray of death, and its eyes pushed back deep into their sockets; the Wendigo looked like a gaunt skeleton recently disinterred from the grave. [51], Television series employing the figure include Teen Wolf, Supernatural,[52] Blood Ties,[53] Charmed,[54] Grimm,[55] and Hannibal, where an FBI profiler has recurring dreams or visions of a wendigo that symbolizes the titular cannibalistic serial killer. I believe cultural appropriation is Only when someone of another 'race' or culture creates something and passes it off as if it is authentic. So some of it may be that natives don't want people to be waking this monster. Since the concept of a wendigo stems from First Nations folklore, maybe someone making a cute little doll of this evil spirit figure was seen as inappropriate or making fun of their culture? Blackwood's work has influenced many of the subsequent portrayals in mainstream horror fiction,[42][43] such as August Derleth's "The Thing that Walked on the Wind" and "Ithaqua" (1933 and 1941),[41] which in turn inspired the character in Stephen King's novel Pet Sematary,[42] where it is a personification of evil, an ugly grinning creature with yellow-grey eyes, ears replaced by ram's horns, white vapor coming from its nostrils, and a pointed, decaying yellow tongue. I am so offended! As described by the Native American Cree legends, they were humans who have been mutated into cannibalistic monsters after being possessed by the Wendigo spirit, causing them to eat the flesh of other humans. Marvel Comics pay tribute to classic Monsters. Those things, the predation on the Indians by Europeans, most certainly happened. How stupid to think otherwise. I will draw whatever I feel like drawing. What makes the wendigo any different from other culturally important mythological creatures like unicorns? Contributors control their own work and posted freely to our site. The idea of getting down to the nitty-gritty came from the 18th century English slave trade, when nitty-gritty referred to the worthless debris left at the ship's bottom compartment after slaves had been evacuatedand evolved to include the slaves themselves. The latest addition to this lineup of wendigo tales is Scott Cooper and Guillermo del Toros horror film Antlers (2021) in which a Native American character provides some brief exposition before the story centered around a white community contending with the monster begins in earnest. And FWIW, I've read stories that disturbed me & even disgusted me but the author has the right to tell their story whether I like it or don't. And were on the right side, thats what were working on but sometimes you get that cannibal tendency. People were not really using Google until the 2000s and that kind of info might have not been available in the 90s. Key elements of culture include: language art,. Strictly speaking, cultural appropriation is the adoption of some element of another culture -- food, language, practices, fashion, etc. 11. According to Professor Chris Schedler, the figure of the wendigo represents "consuming forms of exclusion and assimilation" through which groups dominate other groups. [43] These works set the template for later portrayals in popular culture, at times even replacing the Native American lore. One does not need to delve very deeply into the annals of American film, television, and literature to find an array of caricatured depictions of Native American peoples and a distortion of their knowledge. With its bones pushing out against its skin, its complexion the ash-gray of death, and its eyes pushed back deep into their sockets, the Wendigo looked like a gaunt skeleton recently disinterred from the grave. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. [28] Given that he resorted to cannibalism so near to food supplies, and that he killed and consumed the remains of all those present, it was revealed that Swift Runner's was not a case of pure cannibalism as a last resort to avoid starvation, but rather of a man with Wendigo psychosis. One of those advisors I just mentioned, Chris Eyre, had this to say of the Wendigo: They [meaning Native peoples] truly, truly believe in it, because it represents greed and colonialism when we first came to the shores of what is now America, and pillaged all of their resources and forced them [into] cannibalism. appropriation, or - as I argue - misappropriation, of the Wendigo as a In some cases, this entailed killing people with Wendigo psychosis. Wendigos specifically represent the very real threat of starvation and what moral depths a person will sink to to avoid starving to death in the hard, cold de Continue Reading More answers below KEY OOY Some researchers argued that, essentially, Wendigo psychosis was a fabrication, the result of nave anthropologists taking stories related to them at face value without observation. teachers and their students to stand up to bigotry and hate. There's also Wendigo psychosis. Im glad, because I dont believe that it is. With the comments turned off on Dollightful's apology video, I thought that maybe we could have some discussion here(if anyone ever sees this, anyway). I won't pretend I know everything about NA culture, but I believe that headresses and that kind of finery is only used on special occasions and was not how ordinary NAs dressed all the time. What I do think is not so great was it could have been something that was corrected for the films, where they do have access to people and the internet was more developed in the mid 2000s. https://www.deviantart.com/forum/community/complaints/2611618/. [12] Although descriptions can vary somewhat, common to all these cultures is the view that the wendigo is a malevolent, cannibalistic, supernatural being. so no, if you're some white kid hearing crying in the forests of california you're not being "lured into the A specimen of folk story collected in the early 20th century by Lottie Chicogquaw Marsden, an ethnographer of the Chippewas of Rama First Nation, in which a wendigo also exhibits tool use, an ability to survive partial dismemberment, and autocannibalism, reads:[19]. Wendigo psychosis is a fascinating condition with a storied history. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. You're absolutively spot on! They travelled too much. I am just reacting to what I read in this ridiculous PSA journal out there on Deviantart. 17spaz 2 yr. ago As a result, in 1907, Fiddler and his brother Joseph were arrested by the Canadian authorities for homicide. Seems to me a great deal of what people write about in fantasy stories is borrowing from other cultures & nations & communities. Romantic scholar and documentarian Emily Zarka, also a professor at Arizona State University, observes that two commonalities among the indigenous cultures of Algonquian language family speakers are that they are situated in climes where harsh winters are frequent and may be accompanied by starvation. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. The people who get offended over it, on behalf of someone else, are pathetically absurd. Indigenous, Latvians have their own version of Thor, so I probably should be offended, as well. In my blind quest to represent everyone, all I did was reinforce the problem. It's like saying vampires are sacred. Writer, musician, activist, single father from Chicago. 1. My intentions were pure, as were Rowling's, I imagine. Windigo is a malevolent manitou or spirit whose insatiable appetite for human flesh can never be satisfied. MORTUI VELOCES SUNT! I mentioned above that I was guilty of doing the same thing. The legend of the Wendigo is, in fact, one of the oldest manifestations of a taboo peculiar to most human societies, and which was already widespread among Anglophone tribes: cannibalism. 5. Jack committed suicide, but Joseph was tried and sentenced to life in prison. By Derrick Clifton. Learn how your comment data is processed. They heard the Windigo calling the boy. [13] They were strongly associated with winter, the north, coldness, famine, and starvation.[14]. [40][41] Joe Nazare wrote that Blackwood's "subtly-demonizing rhetoric transforms the Wendigo from a native myth into a descriptive template for the Indian savage."[42]. Exactly!! The beautiful maang tikka, or hair accessory falling down the part in the middle of the hair, marks a . Sacred creatures? creators (a large majority being white) . Far from just being a monster in an escapist horror flick, Forbes and LaDuke demonstrate that the wendigo can help us grasp the horrors of our real world so we can be here now and, ultimately, work toward solutions. wa, which may have meant "owl". So yeah, if anyone could offer any insight/information, thatd be appreciated. (1961). [29], Another well-known case involving Wendigo psychosis was that of Jack Fiddler, an Oji-Cree chief and medicine man known for his powers at defeating wendigos. Monsters like Wendigos often represent, in the imprecise language of emotion, a common cultural fear. I would agree, only I am more likely to not care much even what an Algonquin cares about my monster character. I'm just struggling to understand the significance of it. After thinking about it some more, I understand that its a kind of It was okay for these kids to pretend to be Indians but not for these kids to actually be Indians thing but I saw someone claim that it was contributing to colonisation and the death of death of their culture and that felt a bit strong. [26][27] During the winter of 1878, Swift Runner and his family were starving, and his eldest son died. J.K. Rowling's Cultural Appropriation Should Be A Lesson To White Writers Native Americans shouldn't be a "niche," and neither should women, LGBT people, or people of color. Not so for anyone who isn't a straight, white male, and this trend in entertainment forces many people to seek out "niche" markets to find characters who look like them and are portrayed honestly and realistically. The Indians asked the Windigo if there was any fat on them. [47], Other creatures based on the legend, or named for it, appear in various films and television shows, including Dark Was the Night, Ravenous , The Lone Ranger (2013),[48] and the 2021 film Antlers by Scott Cooper, where the wendigo is portrayed as a deer-like creature with a glowing heart that moves from person to person with a never ending hunger. It never occurred to me that what I was doing might be offensive, because I've never even met a Native American person in real life. One time long ago a big Windigo stole an Indian boy, but the boy was too thin, so the Windigo didn't eat him up right away, but he travelled with the Indian boy waiting for him till he'd get fat. without permission.1 Handle the characters and the story with respect. They are afflicted with neither lunacy, hypochondria, nor frenzy; but have a combination of all these species of disease, which affects their imaginations and causes them a more than canine hunger. This term only applies to a . The legend of the Wendigo stems from Native American folklore, primarily in Algonquian-speaking tribes located in south and southeastern Canada, the Great Lakes Region, and northeastern United States. For example, dressing up as a Native American while using redface and using the gaudiest, most elaborate costume you can think of (using the stereotypical feathered headress, tribal print tan clothing, holding a spear, etc.). By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Other sources say wendigos were created when a human resorted to cannibalism to survive. Wendigo) from its cultural conte xt and its movement by non-Indigenous . Dressing up as a cultural stereotype is never, ever OK. Cady Heron once remarked that, "in the real world, Halloween is when kids . ][22][failed verification], In historical accounts of retroactively diagnosed Wendigo psychosis, it has been reported that humans became possessed by the wendigo spirit, after being in a situation of needing food and having no other choice besides cannibalism. They are seen as malevolent, cannibalistic, supernatural beings of great spiritual power . It too is cannibalistic; however, it is characterized as enlightened with ancestral insights. There's nothing wrong with drawing the popular concept of a wendigo monster, or drawing any monster with antlers, and calling it a wendigo. In addition, for many Indigenous peoples and local communities, making traditional clothes is a source of income; as such, cultural appropriation can . BTW, I love rainbow farting unicorns! [21] The last known wendigo ceremony conducted in the United States was at Lake Windigo of Star Island of Cass Lake, within the Leech Lake Indian Reservation in northern Minnesota.[when? The Wendigo was gaunt to the point of emaciation; its desiccated skin pulled tautly over its bones. The Wendigo is by far one of the most mysterious and feared monsters in not only in the Algonquian folklore which it is attributed to, but also other . Cookie Notice C'est la maladie dont ces dputez furent atteints; et comme la mort est l'vnique remede parmy ces bonnes gens, pour arrester ces meurtres, ils ont est massacrez pour arrester le cours de leur manie. 9 Neil Jamieson-Williams Science Fiction Writer (part-time/now full-time) at Self-Employment (1977-present) Author has 1.7K answers and 1.1M answer views Updated 6 mo Ah, another Mike Wilson question Facing History and Ourselves invites educators to explore our case study Stolen Lives: The Indigenous Peoples of Canada and the Indian Residential Schools, particularly our reading "Culture, Stereotypes, and Identity" which features reflection questions surrounding some of the stereotypical media representations that we touch upon at the beginning of this essay. Certainly Navajo "skin walkers" are one of the more common Native American legends that non-native writers reference (the only other example I can think of that comes close is the Algonquin Wendigo), but like I said, it would be presumptuous of me to guess at Rowling's research style. and our Chippewa author Louise Erdrich's novel The Round House, winner of the National Book Award, depicts a situation where an individual person becomes a wendigo. In theory, art and other cultural products are created for the. (Not to put too fine a point on it, but you should totally go buy my novella. Draw/write what you want, I say. The deaths of tens of millions of Jews, Slavs, etc., at the hands of the Nazis, the deaths of tens of millions of blacks in slavery days, the deaths of up to 30 million or more Indians in the 1500s, the terribly short life spans of Mexican Indian farm workers in the US, and of Native Americans generally today, the high death rates in the early industrial centers among factory workers, and so on, all clearly attest to the fact that the wealthy and exploitative literally consume the lives of those that they exploit. Im just struggling to understand the significance of it. to tell a new tale. I don't don't value cultural pluralism. I do not know, nor can I. arent cryptids thing. The Wendigo (Also known as windigo, weendigo, windago, waindigo, windiga, witiko, wihtikow, and various other names including manaha) originates from Native-American legend, and is said to be a demonic half-beast as told by the Algonquian peoples along the Atlantic coast of the United States and Canada. Is it okay for a white person to celebrate the culture. I have drawn my own version of golems too, and that is Jewish mythology. These bonnets are symbols of warrior achievements and are the equivalent of military medals.
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