Ironically, the John MacArthur I admired for so long, is now the one continuously worthy of being publicly criticized. Christians will not find strength to face the challenges of today by looking to novel ideas Rather than a mere relic of the past, the Reformation is our future. I think Roys report did a pretty precise job of explaining the situationyou could always talk to David Gray, who is STILL LOCKED UP AND PAROLE DENIED!!!! You do know that John MacArthur is in his 80s. At age 20, Eileen known to many by her previous, Hohn Cho, a lawyer and former elder at John MacArthurs Grace Community Church (GCC), accused the influential California megachurch of awful patterns. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Robert Godfrey: The Necessity of Christhttps://bit.ly/3a3eTw0Music:Solar Flares - Caleb Etheridgehttps://filmpac.com/product/FMAAA1833/ For nearly 40 years, Johns teaching helped me become a faithful Christian in every respect. Your joys, pains, sacrifices, and triumphs last for a moment before disappearing forev If you are nothing more than a cosmic accident, your life doesn't matter. I believe he is in his 80s now. You have to realize at some point that God is in this grand illumination of corruption in the American Christian big business machine so HE can be truly honored and glorified. On March 18-20, 2021, Ligonier Ministries hosted its 2021 National Conference, celebrating fifty years since the ministry's founding. Interested in joining the Ligonier team? Matthew 18:15-17 Ligonier Conference Series with J. Ligon Duncan The Invisible Church Discovering Deuteronomy Learn More Renewing Your Mind Minute with R.C. Because I believe there is way more to the story than what is being told. Not before an unbelieving world 20 yrs later. Whatever Elders do at GCC, it is somehow distinct from Leadership. Then be reinstalled as a member once again. We know enough of the story to call a man to repentance. He revered medical professionals who helped he and his family during their life -threatening emergencies. Joyce, have you read Julies articles? Ligonier 2021 Pittsburgh Conference. 16:13). 451 Ligonier Court, Sanford, . Tom Gardiana, folks have been looking for MacArthurs repentance, but it is yet to be found. Why are they so angry when they are being held to account , when asked to walk the talk ? Absolutely correct. To shame and reject an abused wife and her abused children is reprehensible behavior and it is especially so when the one doing the shaming is an influential church leader. Pastor John MacArthur in his sermon on the holiness of God and His people at the Ligonier Ministries' conference said something that we all need to know. The work being done by Julie, along with that of Warren Cole Smith and others, is aimed at an appropriate level of accountability, as well as showing the world that we Christians do expect better from our leaders. In the Greek-speaking world in which this was communicated, elder was universally understood as being a man at least 60 years old. It is not to be handled by elders in private and a decision abruptly announced by the lone pastor/teacher. In MacArthurs case his higher calling needs higher scrutiny. It sounds like you are seeing these allegations as an isolated incident cherry picked from his past, where many of us are seeing this as proof of how he operates. I say, keep workin and knock yourselves out. If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. It sends out mixed messages. He seemed proud of his involvement in civil rights. Ding!) There is a question of whos work? Certainly, we have all done awful things we wouldnt want being brought out into the public eye. Is the doctrine of election a primary doctrine? It is kind of like a baby with a pacifierJM tickles the ears of these work horses. I really dont know the whole story and neither do you! MacArthur, whos been a mainstay at the conference for decades, was slated to speak at Ligonier 2022, March 2426 in Orlando, Florida. But nothing, not even a public apology. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. He confessed to punishing too harshly with a belt and rod, striking his kids on the head and feet and not being appropriately dressed when he was with his daughter. In a statement released by Ligonier Ministries on Monday, the organization said the younger Sproul was removing himself from ministry for "personal reasons" but made no mention of his arrest. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. His attitude is not one of an elder and Macarthurs so called spokesperson. He is a LEADER who behaved disgraceful and led others to do the same. Now, he dissuades any such discussions. The scripture tells us to mind our own business . Another factor may be that she doesnt have the pressure to meet deadlines (doesnt have to churn out news product) so she can take the time needed for good reporting. Grace is the higher law here, especially amongst believers. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. One of the best ways you can learn about a person or even an event is being thereto be on site. Unfortunately w Steve Lawson so entrenched in both MacArthur and Ligonier ministries I have to break from both. He may start with faith alone, but he brings works into maintaining salvation and if you believe your works maintain your salvation, you are not saved, because no works can justify or maintain salvation before God. It is sad, but this isnt looking good for anyone involved, especially believers. You believe that the charges against Ravi Zacharias were petty and his victims hate God? You can literally walk in the footsteps of our heroes of the past, of Luther, of Calvin, of Jonathan Edwards. He admitted to often being nude with his daughter. Sproul and exists to proclaim, teach, and defend the holiness of God in all its fullness to as many people as possible. Learn more: https://www.ligonier.org/about/. When a mainstay at a conference suddenly pulls out of the conference in the wake of controversy, yes, that is newsworthy, especially when the person is a celebrity. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. This was alarming due to the recently exposed heretical teachings espoused by First Baptist. As we study the Apostles essential teachings on the character of God, we will be joyfully motivated to act on His Word and to live for His glory. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. This story is extremely well documented so I am forced to accept the truth. The GCC Elders are arrogant and cant see arrogance in others David Gray. They dont need signs. However, a church where MacArthur also was slated to speak in March has stated MacArthur is cancelling its engagement due to family health issues.. Thank you Cherul Unruh for being brave enough to say so. During this eight-day study cruise, Ligonier Teaching Fellows Drs. What is the future church facing? Like my Facebook Page: @KuiperBelt117 or https://www.facebook.com/KuiperBelt117 Follow me on Twitter: @KuiperBelt117 or https://twitter.com/KuiperBelt117Email me at: KuiperBeltProductions1@gmail.com All footage was shot with a Sony Aiii Camera. Some people heard about Cadets for the first time and were surprised to learn that the Cadets ministry has been around since 1952. They have left the safe path, that church leadership that deviates from the instruction and example from the Apostles and elders in the New Testament, the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. And remember he and his wife were resting during their absence from the pulpit when it came out later that they actually had the Covid virus. Click Bait on the headline! There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. How can one grow in the fear of God and decrease in the fear of man? 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"Since I did not have a local church during the lockdown, it was tough to grow spiritually, but I continued to grow in my faith because of Ligonier's articles, videos, and podcasts. CRN offers a lifeline to conservative people of faith who are disgusted with Facebook, Twitter and the MSM for failing to report, even blocking, important news stories that dont comport with the far lefts narrative. Interactive video courses for individual or group study on topics related to the Bible, theology, Christian living, church history, and more. 0:00 / 47:27 Introduction Questions & Answers with Kim, Lawson, MacArthur, and Nichols Ligonier Ministries 553K subscribers Subscribe 300K views 1 year ago #ligcon A questions and answers. The local church which consists of the members must be the authority under the Headship Christ to excommunicate a member found guilty and unrepentant. Tom, I hope this doesnt seem like piling on, since youve already gotten a number of replies to your comment. What king of elder board would throw her out and keep him knowing this? Because John MacArthur is a Pastor, Teacher, Expositor, he is absolutely MORE accountable than anyone to give an explanation/apology especially on the magnitude of this issue with the Grays and what he did to Eileen Gray specifically. Audio was taken from the following sermons:Derek Thomas: The Worship of Godhttps://bit.ly/3isftb8Steven Lawson: The Glory of Godhttps://bit.ly/3ort0U7W. How would you counsel someone who struggles with unbelief / doubt [someone who lacks assurance]? How Phil and Justin Peters and the like can defend this man is amazing, but he does write their checks. I know I am saved by Grace alone. (Note, conflict and celebrity are 2 of the 7 elements of newsworthiness.). 27. For someone who believe that their action were right and just, they sure dont seem to be very forthcoming with an explanation. Today, Chris Larson and Nathan W. Bingham join Lee as he announces his retirement as host, shares favorite memories from his friendship with R.C. The Ligonier Conference 2021was titled Right Now Counts Forever. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. Ligonier Ministries is an international Christian discipleship organization founded by theologian Dr. R.C. Interested in joining the Ligonier team? Plumbing the depths of divine mercy in Ephesians 1, we will strive to better understand Gods unfolding plan of redemption and our place in it, helping us live each day to the praise of His glorious grace. Announcing Our 2021 Conference in Detroit. [10] But may the God of all grace, who called us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a while, perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you. Eileen Taylors 20-year-old self could never have imagined her life today. August 2021 View Issue The History of Ligonier Ministries by Stephen J. Nichols Last Things Etched on a granite memorial in Point State Park in Pittsburgh are the words "A Place of International Consequence." This place, Three Rivers, played a pivotal role in the Colonial era. Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. A ministry of the First Presbyterian Church of Pittsburgh since 1914. Sproul's new book. So your saying some of your past sins are protecting pedophiles and wife beaters and youve covered up people that committed those crimes? God bless Pastor John and his church family. Spanning the scope of salvation from election to future glory, the first chapter of Ephesians re There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. The real gospel says its not about what we do for christ, its about what he did for us. We need Julie Roys and more journalists like her! Point blank, period, end of discussion. MacArthur CLEARLY verbally attacked the people protesting the nazis at Charlottesville but totally mitigated and exonerated the nazis and alt right white nationalists who murdered Heather Hyer. 13 But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible, for anything that becomes visible is light. This is the lowest registration rate we will offer. I believe that church pastored by a team of CO-EQUAL teaching elders would prevent this kind of behavior exhibited by the one and only pastor/teacher of Grace Community Church, John MacArthur. What are you talking about! Assuming that the same person will have these very different skills would seem to be a foundational error in many cases. I agree we are all sinners and I agree I would not want my past exposed. 5) If John or his ministry does not respond then it will wrongly fall to his peers to awkwardly be targeted. [21m 38:30], Q7. So many write to us every week to share how the Lord has used Dr. R.C. Nearly everyone who stopped by the Cadet exhibit was excited to learn that Cadets is at work in the lives of boys and men around the world. It is reprehensible. Its been readily apparent for many years that MacArthur is sick and should not be speaking anywhere that values truth, integrity, and godly character. Only ones who report the facts without judgment or distortion. We hope that we were able to plant seeds of interest that will grow into meaningful connections and more Cadet clubs. This is an ONGOING issue. Have you read the hand written confession David Gray gave to GCC? Right Now Counts Forever 2021 National Conference by Various Teachers | Ligonier Ministries If you are nothing more than a cosmic accident, your life doesn't matter. Sproul and Ligonier in their lives. I do not fear going before God and saying lord, I called out the den of vipers who abuse your word for their own glory. The problem is this: there is no such thing as an adjective Christian: conservative or liberal progressive Christian. The result is that they become Satans buddies, by being in and of the world to the point that they believe whatever they want to believe, distorting Christs character, which might well be known to them rather than being ignorant of it, and they develop a denial based cult like mentality, which becomes pride-filled, disrespectful of the law, macho and deeply conservative above and beyond being Christlike. Disappointing. The Roys Report is doing a unique and vital work exposing sin and lack of accountability in religious gatherings. The problem with this particular sin, is its a crime so it is not about digging. I will miss his presents this year at Ligonier ministries conference. Be among the first to get R.C. (Ding! Dr. MacArthur informed us this week that he will be unable to join us for next weeks conference. It may be an excuse. John macarthur does not understand the difference between a believer and a disciple , nor the difference between justification and sanctification. To be like Jesus is to not mince words about snakes. Fix that problem! . Your gift now at year's end will enable Ligonier to continue this outreach into 2022 and beyond. Real simple. You are misunderstanding and misrepresenting what John has preached and written on the topic. MacArthur does not know the verse, it says: Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him and said to King Jehoshaphat, Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord and so bring wrath on yourself from the Lord? (2 Chronicles 19:2). You can also keep these digital messages forever by purchasing the conference collection from the Ligonier store. Since the Lord does not change in turbulent times, we must live courageously and without compromise for His eternal truth. John, Phil and the likes all presume to be teachers. John MacArthur, however, is a constant at the top of both groups. A misogynistic Elder board, thats what kind. Our Lord Jesus Christ will have the last word concerning this matter. Only the blood of Jesus can do this and it is received freely as a gift by his grace to those who believe. Christianity is a faith that must be put into practice. This is why the CCC sends representatives to conferences like this one. But dont say that we dont know the story. How strange in this case the government got it right, and the Elders leading the local church got it wrong. Yes, he is too accountable. He needs to be biblically qualified and he isnt. Grace Community Church was given a *written confession* by David Gray before MacArthur publicly shamed her for not submitting to him. JM, even though hes got poor taste in watches (understated is best: Patek Phillippe Calatrava, for instance, can be had quite cheaply), he is not a leader and should tell his congregation so: he is a servant of the church, as are we all. $ 99 off. That is the part that is, as you put it, scary. These mega churches do not function biblically because its too cumbersome. Ligonier Tours takes you to the places where significant events occurred, events that have shaped history. Sproul Jr. View our current career opportunities. When a preacher, who doesnt meet those conditions, preaches from the pulpit even when he is biblically accurate but then fails to walk the walk and seems only able to talk the talk, he then fails to respect the very reason for being allowed to preach in the first place. Stream all of the messages from last weeks 2021 National Conference for free on Ligonier.org, the Ligonier app, and YouTube. If we the church dont call out the vipers then who will. Your article is very one-sided. The Q&A panel discussion of this post is from day 3. [40:30 48m], https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMuLTFOGPx8. The Psalmist David used to pray for God to deal with his enemies, why dont people pray such prayers today? It means that these believers use The Bible to align with their views and prejudices, which takes precedence; they dont deny themselves to follow Christ. And that it doesnt cost us anything, its a GIFT FREELY received by those who BELIEVE. We can even create the scene in our minds eye. Quit picking on these guys! I understand this is an extreme example, but hopefully you see the problem here. And this is a pattern for him. 2. This story will not go away. I am praying for the new leadership of Grace Community Church to stop fueling hate against women and other brethren. NO VIDEOS! All rights reserved, West Coast Ministers Conference | Devoted to Christs Church, Seth the nameless man: A key condition for Revival. Over the last ten years, listeners of Renewing Your Mind have been greeted each day by the friendly voice of Lee Webb. National Conference Sep 21-23, 2023 Atlanta, GA General Registration The Sovereignty of God God is sovereign over all. Julie simply reported what John and GCC did to Eileen. Its scary to repent of your past but know that someone could dig it up easily. A good man obtains favor from the Lord, but a man of wicked intentions He will condemn. (Proverbs 12:2) I no longer support John MacArthur because his intentions seem to have shifted from revealing Gods will, to using his platform to conform others to his will. David Grey continued from jail to manipulate others in Grace Community Church to his benefit despite his criminal conviction. If we all used the hey, we all sin! And it may not. What does that mean in the church? He is very prideful, if he was truly humble he would apologise to the woman, that he shamed. That is totally taking scripture out of context. I guess they dont really believe what they preach. The 3-minute video of John MacArthur himself introducing the subject and pronouncing judgment upon Eileen with all comment closed off by the immediate serving of communion with singing is sufficient knowledge of the story to know that is not the Bible way to handle the situation of a woman separating from her husband. Since no one else shares the same title of Pastor/ Teacher as John there, it is prudent to conclude that John MacArthur is without equal at GCC and functions as the de facto senior pastor. The Ligonier app allows you to: Log in to access your purchased teaching series and conference messages Download audio messages for offline playback Cast video and audio to connected. Id hardly call what MacArthur did to Eileen Grays to be an act of kindness and service. Nor should you try to tarnish anyone whitout facts. As Christians are pushed toward the margins of a hostile society, we cannot afford to surrender our convictions or to retreat in fear. 4) I am so disappointed that John has not responded to this very important happening. You can literally walk in the footsteps of our heroes of the past, of Luther, of Calvin, of Jonathan Edwards. As you seem so keen for Christians to hold one another accountable, why didnt GCC hold criminal abuser David Grays accountable? Relay Worship Conference Bowling Green, Kentucky February 18, 2023 Relay Worship Conference Worship Northwest Keizer, Oregon February 23 - 25, 2023 Worship Northwest Angeles Worship Summit Azusa, California February 25, 2023 Angeles Worship Summit Prophetic Worship Summit Austin, Texas March 3 - 5, 2023 Prophetic Worship Summit Q5. Blessed in Christ Detroit 2021 Conference - Ligonier Ministries There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. Dont forgettomorrow is the last day to save 50% on admission to the 2022 National Conference in Orlando. The Q & A portion of the conference would be a snake pit to navigate right now. A Continuing Reformation Pittsburgh 2021 Conference - Ligonier Ministries Rather than a mere relic of the past, the Reformation is our future. Now about your sins that may or may not need the police to review!!!! All meals and housing are provided in . Sproul in 1971 to equip Christians to articulate what they believe, why they believe it,. Pastor Heiland, there doesnt seem to be any reason to expect that being a great expositor or preacher or public speaker would overlap with being a good pastor. Best Discount Code. Our 2023 National Conference will encourage us to stand firm on the everlasting doctrines of the Christian faith (1 Cor. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. A Conservative Christian Elder Board, to be most precise. An elder must be above reproach. You are missing a key point here. You use 1 Tim 5:20 as justification to take these matters public, but come on, we both know when it says everyone it is in the context of everyone in the church not the world at large. John MacArthur has pulled out of the Ligonier 2022 Conference. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? Nice try Tom. Sproul took a plea deal in that case which allowed him to avoid prison. Q4. . His character must be exemplary. Give him and us a break please! I love him and his great skills as an Expositor, and I respect him for that, but he needs to come clean on these matters. Spanning the scope of salvation from election to future glory, the first chapter of Ephesians re There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. Sproul's new book. As was pointed out in this Roy report! Say something I dont agree with spirituality, sure lets go to the elders. Announcing Our 2021 Conference in Detroit There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. The Roys Report reached out to MacArthur for comment but did not immediately hear back. [16:30 21m], Q6. College-Age Positions: $100 for Training + $285 / Week Base Rate. The conference theme was Right Now Counts Forever. Attendees were often reminded that God is at work in everything, including the current moment, so that what we do in the present matters forever. Panel Discussion: R.C. Even when there is an opportunity to fess up and give a truthful explanation as to why MacArthur will not be able to attend a scheduled event, they/he still gives excuses. Instead, it reads as gotcha journalism and bias on the site. There is no way for us to know for sure at this time and we maybe never will. Sad to see so much opinionation. This seems really weird. W. Robert Godfrey and Derek Thomas will lead us through James 1 against the breathtaking landscape of Alaska. If you cannot hold a pastor/teacher accountable here, and call him to repentance, when can you? The Roys Report has repeatedly sought comment from MacArthur and GCC about the incidents involving David Gray and his wife. Best $ Off Code. Well how can MacArthur justices crazy remarks after Charlottesville ?? It is wrong. That said, vindictive comments from any side are beneath the calling of a Christian. Julies reporting is biblically sound. But based on my experience of attending a n umber of churches I have found that GCC and John MacArthur are the real deal and at no time have I ever heard him preach any sermon that wasnt 100% scriptual. Sproul, and considered the calling of every . I was never comfortable with the way he publicly corrected others, including RC Sproul. October 21. Lone-pastor/senior-pastors surrounded by subordinates are less likely to receive guidance like what is offered now before the blunder is made and the damage is done. Lordship salvation is the gospel of John macarthur and it is a false gospel different from the gospel of grace the apostles preached and the gospel that the reformers believed in (faith alone). If the NT was written today Im sure it would include that pedophiles and wife/child abusers and thieves should be handed over to law enforcement. YOU, I have been looking for MacArthurs repentance? These men took 9 questions which are noted below. On March 8, The Roys Report published an expos with exclusive video showing that MacArthur shamed and excommunicated the wife of child abuser, David Gray, for refusing to take Gray back into her home. The answers to Q6 occurred from the 21 minute mark to 38:30. To donate, supported Gray even after his 2005 convictions, Opinion: John MacArthur and We vs. They. I know this from personal experience. To donate, click here. As a reminder. Trust God and pray for the truth to be known at any and all costs. Julie Roys alluding that it may be otherwise doesnt make it fact. Tom, you could say the same defending pedophiles or rapists. Works do not maintain salvation, but they are a sign to the believer that or she is saved, and seeing such undeniable change in a one of the ways unbelievers are attracted to the Savior. God bless you Julie, for exposing John Maccarthurs hippocrisy. Our culture may suggest that nothing is of lasting significance, but as Christians, we know that God is at work all the time, now and forever, and so we must continue our work to spread and strengthen not only Cadets but Gods Kingdom. On Monday, January 18, we hosted our 2021 Winter Conference, Everyone's a Theologian, at Saint Andrew's Chapel and on the RBC campus in Central Florida. GCC was given his confession. These men are wonderful brothers in the faith, many having decades long faithful ministries that have benefited an untold amount of believers.. The difference is I can ask for forgiveness and repent of my ways. We are CALLED and COMMANDED to expose those in the church are engaged in dishonorable and sinful activities as John MacArthur routinely does. But in reality none of us were there and we have to wait for the truth to come out.
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