If it continues and cant find solution, suggest replacing timer motor, or entire mechanism. Check to be sure that the yellow time dial gear on the back is engaged with the connecting gear, and pushed all the way in. It could also be loose wires, either on the time clock terminal board, or on the timer motor. Ill do the same. Jump to the troubleshooting steps below to fix the issue. Tork pool timer dial, spins freely, not keeping Timer is not 100% identified. Reset the clock to the correct time. You will feel the wheel pull out about an 1/8 of an inch and then you will be able to rotate the timer wheel. my pool timer the does not turn itself on only shuts off I put new trips in but still not working I dont see any ant build up inside there or anything could it just be time to replace the old girl because thats what Im thinking. But the next morning it wont engage by itself again, it seems it sticks when getting to the point its supposed to flip on. If your 120V wires are properly colored, the White wire connects to terminal A, and the Black wire connects to terminal 1. Any ideas why its doing that? As you release the dial, you will feel the gears engage. Grab it, pull it towards you, move it around then place it back down. You can replace the entire mechanism or the gears. The pump worked perfectly before I unscrewed it. The pool was running on a timer. Did somthing else maybe burnt out or what is a good troubleshooting I can do before I call an electrician. You will want to make sure the manual switch under the timer wheel is pushed to the on position. Check the wire connections to be sure they are tight, and look for any burnt wires. I copied the wiring config exactly and my clock gears still arent moving, so now Im thinking the wiring was wrong all along. Generally, plug-in-outlet timer has gone bad, then it cannot be fixed. Articles and resources for swimming pool owners and DIYers. Does this give you a better idea of the problem? Ive seen it happen from lightning strikes, or insect infestation. Hi Davey, The problem lies, where the power dies, as they say, Thanks for the response. If unsure, the White (Neutral) wire connects to the neutral buss bar in the breaker panel, and the Black (Line) wire would connect to the circuit breaker. "height": "219",
Hi Sandra, does the on/off tab switch crisply, or softly? This page is fantastic!! The BN-LINK compact outdoor mechanical pool pump timer is programmable in 15-minute intervals with 48 setting options in a 24 hours period. Replace the gears if this is an issue. About 1-2 years ago I swapped out this unit because it was sticking and not engaging when it was supposed to. For Sale: 2 beds, 2 baths 1152 sq. Push the tab on the top, and let the mechanism fall forward. We are on our third timer. What was the fix?? #9. PF1202T Freeze Protection Control Parts - INYOPools.com Home Pool Parts Time Clock & Control Parts PF1202T Freeze Protection Control Free Shipping on all Orders over $49! But no gears or any sound. The circuit is protected by two ganged breakers. HI Ben, yes just remove the OFF tripper, and the clock will always be ON. So out comes the soldering gun and the shrink wraps and that did the trick. There should be an off pin and an on pin. "url": "https://x1.adis.ws/v1/media/graphics/i/lesl/its-logo-wide",
If so, is there power coming into the clock (on the line terminals)? The timer seems to get stuck prior to reaching the on trippers therfore the pump cant turn on. 1-48 of 242 results for "pool timer trippers" RESULTS. If soft, it may not be fully engaging the switch, which is (sort of) visible next to the tab. Remove the plastic insulator cover, and use an AC test meter to check for power on the terminals where the wires from the breaker connect to the time clock. To reset the time clock to the correct time, grasp the outer edges of the large yellow dial, and pull gently outward. How can it keep time if lever is in off position (manual lever). And when switched on, power to the load terminals? Then number(time of day) that you line up with the time marker will be the time that you are setting your timer to. Hi Jeremy, I would try to pull the unit out and clean it well with compressed air and then spray with WD-40 and see if that helps. But if your circuit breaker is in the on position and your pool timer clock is not rotating and the timer is not working then you will need to call a licensed electrician to replace the timer. Does it need lubricant or something? Why it always stop around 10pm by itself and not moving again? I bought a new timer and replace the T104 timer clock. i have a P1121 intermatic timer connected to a hayward above ground pool pump. Hi Rhomell, are you sure you got the correct trippers? Many thanks! we purchased the house 5 years ago so not sure how old the timer is? Once you have confirmed that you timer is working you will need to adjust the timer pins to reflect the time you want your filter system to turn on and off. Terminals 2 and 4 are used for wires going to the load (pump). The best pool timers allow you to keep your swimming pool spotless without needing to run your pump around the clock. Your incoming power leads should connect to terminals 1 and 3, and the wires that lead to the pump, should be connected to terminals 2 and 4. Hi Davy, The instructions say THIS TIMER IS NOT TO BE USED AS A POWER DISCONNECT. If you have both pins take notice of there position and then come back in a few hours and see if they have changed from the spot they were in when you last looked. It is twisted clockwise or counterclockwise until the correct current time lines up with the "Time" marker, which points directly downward at all times while the clock dial constantly turns. Inspect that the gear behind the timeclock dial, is turning (very slowly), and that nothing is caught up in the gears, like sand or a lizards tail, or bugs, etc. Sometimes we suspect the timer is the issue but it turns out its really the pump or the wiring between the pump and the timer. I had to order new trippers as mine have been straightened too many times. http://waterheatertimer.org/Tork-timers-and-manuals.html I have an intermatic T20004R and my timer is working because it is keeping the correct time. I made sure the trippers were fully inserted and tight. },
No matter what caused the issue, there is typically an easy fix! We had a few power outages the last couple of weeks, but Ive reset the time and it continues to lose time. When I put the new one on, the trippers do not work. You off course will want to adjust one time pin at a time. If the timer manual switch isnt jammed and freely moves into the On and Off positions, then there is either no power to the timer, the timer itself has a fault, there is an issue with the wiring or the pool pump is faulty. My time clock has an ant infestation! Another time clock that you can plug your pump directly into, and then plug the timer into the outlet, is the 24-hr Timer https://www.intheswim.com/p/24-hour-pump-timer (currently we are out of stock, but you can find at any home or hardware store). The 240V or the T104 models have 5 brass screws (terminals) underneath the plastic insulator cover. Help! How do you know if your pool timer is bad? The clock is powered from the Line 1 terminal correct? It randomly loses the time that it is set to. It just seems to have a weak start?? Still no luck. If power is coming to the timer motor, you will clearly see the gears moving through the small window. how do I check the manual over ride switch to see if it is off? The tripper will not move. With the power switched off at the breaker, take out the main part of the timer and carefully inspect the gears for obstructions and missing teeth. If any of these issues occur your timer will not work properly. Thank you. Ive got a weak pump battery so every time the mechanism shuts off it looses time. And does the switch look worn, where the tripper engages? Make sure the middle time pointer is tight. But eventually, like all equipment, intermatic clocks wear out and need to be replaced or repaired. Hello, newer pool guy here. Or be loose and not making good contact. This pool timer is waterproof, heavy-duty, and accurate. However, the timer will stop around 10pm everyday and will not continue moving forward again. I would suggest calling Intermatic and suggesting that idea and a free replacement? Now The ice and snow have melted and the cover is getting in deeper. Thanks in advanced. Hi Mike, yes I sent you an email to your yahoo acct. AJH Trade Group is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program. "url": "https://blog.intheswim.com/"
Also, once it reaches the tripper, the gears in the window no longer move. Using a tester i noticed that there is no power going thru the lines for the pump and salt system. Intermatic time clocks are the workhorse of your pool equipment collection, and oftentimes outlive the equipment they control. AJH Trade Group also participate in other affiliate programs. Did I wire it incorrectly or did I just get a bad timer? A wire inside the motor may be touching another wire, or the metal sides of the motor. If dial is rotating correctly, but water heater never turns on-off, then trippers might be bad. {
Next step would be to inspect the wires going from timer to pump motor, or test them for continuity. Check that dial is not warped. To check this, carefully inspect the gears for missing teeth and make sure they all freely turn. TO SET TIME-OF-DAY:Pull CLOCK-DIALoutward. Hi Chad, the trip mechanism on the clock, the switch, could be worn to the point where the tripper does not make good contact. There is no replacement on/off switch available, you would need a new T104 mechanism, unless you are able to melt some solder, or fix it with duct tape or something, lol! Replace them if they appear to be bent. On mine, the gears behind the dial look metal, but the motor (behind the plate) they look plastic (maybe?) I am using the breaker to turn on and off the pool pump. Then remove the mechanism by pressing the clip at the top of the timer box. Inside, the 1 gear on the right side can be removed to access a metal bar. So what you will need to do next is to troubleshoot your Intermatic timer with a few steps. It seems flimsy when I click it onOnce on, it works like it should and shuts off every time. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Professional plumber and home repairs expert, How To Remove Broken Hayward Super Pump Drain Plugs. ft. 975 Telegraph Rd #103, Santa Paula, CA 93060 $409,000 MLS# V1-15365 Hillview Estates, where you own the land, and this one has a big lot, over 4,100. Hi Jennifer, power down (shut off the breaker) again, to see if it will switch back. Thank you, I dont know about the box, was just told the mechanical timer a T104 is needed. Hi Phil, usually the OFF dog may not be fully pushed onto the dial, or if you examine it closely, it might be worn. charging for timer($150.00) and filter cartridge replacement ($90.00) and a gasket($25.00)called bc of a hose leak, assume that is the gasket but then told that the other 2 parts are needed. Below is a breakdown of how to wire different Intermatic timer models. Okay, so lets move on to the Intermatic Pool Timer troubleshooting and figure out why your timer is not working. 3 Baths. My original timer worked for 5 years then the clock stopped and I heard no sound. Like # 8 09-16-07, 03:09 PM nap New Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: north Posts: 4,162 The A terminal is not normally used, unless you have a 3 wire service. I went to the control panel and saw that the timer needle stopped just after the start pointer. Thanks. Put a meter on the wires or trace them back to find out their voltage and source. Hi Catherine, turning it on manually should not have damaged anything, so go easy on yourself It might have just been time to go. Please let me know if you find the solution! See the wirig diagram in the owners manual here: https://www.intheswim.com/images/PDFs/E2412_Owners_Manual.pdf Clock motor power, as shown in the wiring diagram, comes from terminal 1 and also terminal 3. Or fold the cover to one side if needed. The timer appears to be working fine (keeps time). I replaced a bad timer (90% sure I put the wires in the correct/same spots but there was one time when two wires got loose, so its possible I wired it wrong) and now it turns on and works, but the on/off switch doesnt work. Having no power to your pool timer is a common problem and will occur because of three reasons: The first and easiest thing to check is the circuit breaker. If there has been a recent power outage, the clock will have stopped and youll need to reset the clock to the correct time. I not sure if this is the best timer to use. Elite. However, after several hours, maybe overnight, the associated breaker will trip. Commonly, many pool owners will think there pool timer is broken and not working when all they had to to is turn the circuit breaker to the on position. Or might find something else. Shannon, compare the wiring to the diagram for Line and Load (line is power coming in, Load is power out to your pump). "@type": "ImageObject",
Sometimes bugs get in there and jam the gears, sometimes debris is the issue and other times the gears get old and may lose a tooth. How about the GFCI outlet TEST button, is it tripped? Two days ago after my pool pump shut off automatically I decided to turn it back on because the pool was still dirty. Karl, good question. Assuming the wiring is all correct. If you loosen the hold down screw to much it could separate from the timer pin. For any wiring concerns, always refer to the wiring diagram printed on the inside of the timer door. If the trippers are set for on and off pump function and nothing is working, reset the time and trippers. Watch these tips and tricks before replacing it. What do you suggest to do to get the cover up and the pillows back into position. Report B BadOleRoss 0 LifeTime Supporter Apr 30, 2011 393 Lynchburg VA Aug 21, 2012 #8 Gears are moving , clock is seated correctly and everything is wired per diagram now that pool season is here I have to manually turn my pool on and off at the timer . Align the bar with the current time and push it back into place. Now remove the terminal cover on the timer. Breakers go bad sometimes, after many years. Does the tripper work on other areas of the clock, like near the off tripper? Followed all directions and even watched YouTube troubleshooting videos. Pool Timer Clock Parts and Trippers Welcome to Pool Spa Outpost! 1. I called Intermatic and there is nothing you can do except check it every time you have a power loss. Back when I was a young technician I was taught to always look for the easy things and use all my senses. That will do it. They are little ants that just came. Ask Your Own Pool and Spa Question These are the trippers that came with the time clock. I have a Model T104P and have a new green on tripper attached. "width": "611",
I fastened it very securely. I went to my houses main panel breaker and Flipped that breaker which leads to the pool panel breaker and replaced that breaker which goes straight to the timer. To check this, try to pull out the clock dial and then move it to the correct time and press it back down again. Jun 3, 2013, 10:07 AM You will have ON trippers and OFF trippers, You can place an ON at Noon, and OFF at 1:00 for 1 hours operation, If you manually turned it back on at 3:00, it would stay on until the next OFF tripper (1:00). The time is in my workshop and i normally sit next to it all the time so i know its noisier but its still working fine. I took the electrical box cover off and check the breaker connections. A power surge may have taken out the timer or the pump. During this the pump cannot be manually switched on. "dateModified": "1/10/2020",
Because a pool timer is an electrical timer with mechanical aspects, the clock dial portion of the timer pulls out to set the time. After this has been removed, you can turn the breaker back on and measure for the voltage on the timer input. A qualified person would check there is power to the timer and then bypass the timer to see if the pump worked. Deep down, I figured it was something I did wrong and it was. I have a T103 24 hour dial time switch and noticed the time was off so not reading the DO NOT UNSCREW on the pointer I unscrewed it and moved the pointer to the right time and screwed it back tight. "address": "",
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However, intermittently after the ON tripper switches pump on the pump will stop. Flip it from where it is now, to the opposite side. You can have as many ON an OFF trippes as you want. Also, does it sound like the power is not leaving the breaker? Its best to just write down the spots each timer is in, but remember that its a 24 hours cycle so you will need to come back within 24 hours to see if the pins moved. Open following links to identify timer and then add a comment. A timer that switches on and off at the wrong times usually occurs after a power outage. Hi Chinh, if the clock gears are not moving, check the two small white wires going to the motor, on the reverse side of the timer mechanism. Should it still not work, I suspect a motor failure for the clock. Does the manual lever stay in the on position always? Replace the plastic insulator cover, turn on the power, and observe the visual motor check. Hi Bob, you have two blacks and one neutral? A switch is easier to use, so you dont have to open the clock and stick wet fingers in there, and using the breaker is also less than desirable, as they can wear out faster if used as a switch. Please advise. The other gears are not and the pump will not turn on or off unless done manually. Give it a little squirt of WD-40 or similar lubricant. First you want to make sure there is actually power getting from the power board to the timer itself. The other gears move very slowly, and appear to not move at all, except for one I believe? Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot? "@type": "Organization",
Generally the power goes from the breaker > Timeclock > pump, so that the power is always on to the clock. We recommend these Intermatic timers for most pools:Intermatic T101 Intermatic T103Intermatic T104Intermatic T103. If its not, then the timer will not turn on/off at the correct times. As it get cooler you can cut it down to 5 or 6 hr a day . Miriam, I would check that the timer dogs are pushed fully onto the dial, and the dial is tight also check the screw for tightness in the center of the dial. First, verify the power is turned off at the breaker panel. If the pump comes on, you definitely have power to the timer. Can I spray the timer while there is electricity going in the timer box? The problem lies where the power dies, youve probably heard that before.
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