And as far as I know theres a strong correlation between nessus and psychopaths/abusers. I have this kinky fantasy specifically for him putting a really big needle into me as part of a medical procedure but this isnt my kink or fetish. With asteroids, I would accept a 3 degree conjunction, tops. I suppose I should add that. . To gather more about the flavor of the relationship, look to the actual aspect (is it favorable or difficult?) I just found out my abusers Moon is 1 degree conjunct my Dejanira. (both in Capricorn) Partners switch roles? Lol just noticed what you wrote at the end about Mars/Uranus, sorry! The chart is complex and one has to look at the entire chart to draw very global conclusions. xxx, This may make Nessus and what it means i.e abuse, something that is a deep subject with you and on one which you contemplate. Most potent are Eros-Venus, Eros-Ascendant, Eros-Psyche, and Eros-Mars links. However, this person would have to play it out before he overcame it. so what would it be? You may be fated to marry. Saturn draws the couple together due to karma, but Juno and South Node aspects offer more of a choice. 12 degrees is WAY too much to be conj the ASC, my Friend. Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. I am Sag with rising capricorn and he is Capricorn w/rising Sag. or is the bad guy Nessus only dangerous when in conjonction with Dejanira ? You don't need to BELIEVE in Jesus to come here and/or to contact me. It is a true soul mate aspect, to me. How will these aspects play out? There is attraction based on dark forces like rage, pain and abuse. This isn't always a bad thing, however. Also, our vertexes are conjunct in the same degree. I generally cannot stand them, and their tendency to be arogant and conceited towards anyone who doesnt think the way they do does come across as downright abusive to me. Does that fit and I applaud your willingness to face yourself. Mars pluto aspects Aww Fluffy It takes me several hours so I could not do it here. Thats fatalistic and leaves the image that the entire rest of the charts and people themselves are completely victim to two asteroids that are being portrayed as always playing out when they really do not always do so. The pairing can easily fulfill the other's sexual desires and unlock some of their naughty fantasies. However, if the time is right, for sure, I would trust the chart over a personal account. its more like the astrology helps me to fill in the pictures. Does this mean anything? Posts: 376From: Western Massachusetts, USRegistered: May 2009. It took me a minute to think about the wounded bird types, but I think you might be right. That is what I was saying. We enter the month of February, with lust, love and passion. I just got into astrology a month ago and find it fascinating. We talk about it often (3rd house moon overlay) its just a bit overwhelming sometimes like a sweet dream one moment, then an absolute nightmare. However, there is a flip side. Moon conjunct Pluto is the strongest of the Moon/Pluto aspects because the conjunction trumps any other aspect in strength. Keep in mind that conjunctions are the most important, but other aspects can occasionally speak to marriage. Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. Its completely okay to stand by what you wrote. That being said, the charts WILL play out, imo and ime. orb). The chart allows one to see oneself. "In Greek art Eros was depicted as a winged youth, slight but beautiful, often with eyes covered to symbolize the blindness of love. Uranus/Mars in synastry can be kinky. There is no superficial way to get to know Lilith through the experience of the erotic. Positive aspects speak to a generally happy marriage, but there is still karma to be worked out now. For that reason, I am not for everyone and know this but I seem to be appreciated by people who think like I do. It makes my day , What conjuncts the DSC, we disown and find in the partner. I think Chiron is extremely important in any synastry chart because it speaks to the deepest wounds created between two people. My ex has Scorpio Pluto conjunct my scorpio moon, and I have Sagittarius pluto conjunct his sagittarius moon. I cant really relate to Nessus at all, though I sometimes think I can feel BML itching under my skin. The relationship seems to end in a certain way, too. But interested to see how things unfold. When Eros touches the Sun, the energy of both the Sun and Eros awaken between . Lots of good aspects so thats why the Nessus Dejanira confuses me. It may be the abuse takes place in the home or within the family. It is the passion of lovers and the pure, primal love of a mother for her baby. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. You do not have to do their chart. It "wakes up those areas inside of us and causes us to express them sexually, free from the restrictions of reality. Eros Conjunct the Midheaven: This synastry aspect will be quite powerful for both parties since it will impact the way that the world views them. I need to put it altogether after several hours of study to answer well. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. Thats like saying everyone with their own natal mars square pluto aspect makes them destined to be molested. Dejanira trines my Ascendant. The ex that abused me while I was pregnant had his Nessus conjunct my MC. I am worried about being the abuser here. Maybe you felt this way sometimes given your Lilith-Eros contacts, but I was certainly the one more outwardly angry when the mess finally hit the fan. I always seem to have the opinion that these people are somewhat evil yet gullible and innocent and therefore they deserve to be abused. We need to look at the whole chart to see the whole story. I read all these comments and yes they are interesting. Dejanira is the victim asteroid. for example a 1.46.. or 2? I think most people of the same time period would have it though, so it is not that big of a deal, I think. I am very genuine towards others and fairness is must priority in all circumstances including my own critic.hate violence and abuse and stand up against it. That mars/nessus of his is also square his moon/pluto. I think her NN is right on his 7th house axis for one. If it feels too, too good to be true, it often is. vertex conjunct moon and ascendant in scorpio can make it dark too? I have moon opposition pluto. It may seem challenging but we share many conjunctions and trines/sextiles. The Saturn person may kind of ride the back of the Mars person. Lilith cops the craziest projections - that she could cause miscarriages or tried to wreck men's marriages via 'erotic nightmares' and so on. What if a man has Dejanira conjunct a womans Sun? Hi Ami, Ive been quietly enjoying your site for years now and am finally reaching out as Im intrigued by your work on nessus/deja and recently entered into a relationship with someone (not romantic) who I discovered has nessus and mars conj my nn exact. Maybe, the good aspects just out weight this one. There is NO way this will work out well, in my opinion. Hi! I have 8 scorpio ascendant and he 4 scorpio jupiter. Not sure which one id prefer. The 12th house is all about past life astrology, so the planets can always be applied to past lives as well as the current life. The Lilith conjunct Mars synastry aspect means that this relationship is made up of two fighters. Yet despite this fearsome reputation she was often dismissed as " a minor Babylonian wind deity " or similar. thank you again for being so welcoming, Thank you so much, Sovietlana! I haven't been able to find much discussion about this connection and I'm really interested in hearing stories from other people who've experienced it. I am honored to have you as a valued member of my website family , Ivs, why dont you come put your chart in my Personal Readings Forum. To me, this is always a fundamental place to start. I seemed to be destined to study and use Nessus and Deja. Moon/Pluto as a conjunction is not dark , per se. Most Astrologers dont tell things straight like I do. My Fortuna conjuncts precisely his Dejanira and Moon. Theyre still deeply in love and their synastry and composite charts support it. with Dejanira conjunct his natal Saturn, Mars. I know this is not my website, so I cannot change how you write and it is not my business to dictate how you write. or you consider just the closer orbit? Venus mars aspects As a result, this aspect can feel like opening a can of worms that literally fly, not crawl, out of the unconscious. I think you are insightful, do not get me wrong, but being fatalistic is not the truth, and me saying that being fatalistic is wrong to do and is detrimental to people that dont know how complex astrology is, does not mean that I am not accepting the truth. This only works with a synastry chart, and (as always) is simply my own opinion! In fact, it is the opposite. Sometimes I nurture sometimes he does. Do you have any advice for me? Eros in a synastry chart. Nessus conjuncts BML, and Dejanira conjuncts DSC and Pluto. Lilith is looking for sacred sex. Thank you Ivs. You are very welcome, my Friend. This can indicate marriage, but it can also indicate a long-term romantic or sexual relationship. Sorry if its too much info xx, Ps, sorry! Saturn conj Mars in Scorpio could produce a kinky kind of thing. The Sun person naturally understands who the Moon person is and vice versa. They are deceiving themselves, would be a better way to say it. And how would his Saturn conjunct her dejanira play out? Same natal chart of a man who is 41-42 years old. There is the potential to take things to another realm when the aspects are favorable. lol. 1. This is another clear-cut past life astrology marriage aspect, although it isnt as heavy. crap. We have no moon aspects will this help? Lovely and very filled with passion! This totally depends on someone as a person. His sun/jupiter/neptune/venus are on my venus/saturn trouble spot in scorp. If you do this, Astrology will serve its purpose, which is to warn and alert people to possible problems and even dangers. I dont know too much about asteroids and wonder if the intense attraction I am feeling will fizzle as quickly as it came about or if it lasting. I should have replied to the previous post, as it was a continuation of the conversation we had started. Yes, it would. If anything, Ive suffered abuse from others at times. Do you think the way it plays out ties into whatever our attitudes toward Eros/Lilith themes (erotic transformation, primal urges, etc) were to begin with? In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring, changing our lives in intense and lasting ways. Currently you have JavaScript disabled. the Moons will make for best friends. His 8th house Nessus is conjunct my 7th house Dejanira (2s), opposite my moon (-1s) and square my mercury (2a). Thank you for this information! I think you will have the urge to abuse. In mythology, Eros was the god of sexual love and desire. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. his moon is in cancer so depending on what time hes born, there are 2 scenarios :1) my Saturn squares his moon but my sun and north node would conjunct it 2) my Pluto would square his moon but our moons would be in trine. Thanks :), I have BML in my 1st house in Scorpio along with Venus and Saturn All are in conjunction with BML. It brings you back to the time when you were a child and truly powerless. Have you tried? But I always have the feeling that people want to abuse/fool me in one way or another and they get surprised when I respond, I constantly need to stand up for myself in any sort of situation, from the cashier in the shop to colleagues at work. Thanks for the push in this direction, my Friend. , Not a sag actually, but a virgo with tons of leo in her chart, lol. It would simply be different. I was thinking that maybe one of the lesser factors could be moon/mars contacts? My Pluto opposite his Moon. In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. I write the truth not to placate people but because the truth is the only thing that heals. My mother has her Nessus conjunct my sun and she has it conjunct her own north node, and my Dejanira is conjunct her moon, and there has NEVER been any type of abuse. Eros wants intense encounters that lead to lasting transformation. With mercury and Uranus in Scorpio. It is sad! Things were so passionate that we were bankrupting ourselves on planet tickets, so after a whirlwind 4 month courtship I quit my job and moved in with him- on the other side of the country. I love you and hope you write to me to say hello or to ask questions. Would the aspects to the venus offset the negativity that the Dejanira implies? It makes me feel very crazy. Is there anything I can do to help her? I have not seen it fail in all of my chart work. I don't need anything from you, except to serve you. 8. You are not an astrology god that holds the key to the entire truth. She is raw sexuality which will not be dark if it touches Venus imo and Welcome , what if I have my Lilith conjunct his juno and his venus. In other words, if a mans Nessus conjuncts your ASC, he will abuse you, in my opinion. I dont pay that much attention to Deja conj another asteroid. Think sitting next to a roaring fire. Ive only been studying astrology casually for 5 years, so even though I know the basic interpretation of those planets in contact, Id still love to hear it from a pro love your blog! They have lots of soulmate connections in the charts and both make really strong NN conjunctions and squares in synastry. They may not be able to see what you are up to and you could use this for your gain. and DW : womans Nessus (13 Gemini) opposite mans Juno ( 12 Sag). I feel like it helps me. I asked if I could post their charts but my friend isnt comfortable with it. One other thing that might be helpful with this asteroid pairing, and one that I think is quite meaningful. In some past life, at some point, weve been married to almost everyone weve dated or had some type of relationship with. Yes, their Moons are trine both in Earth signs. Considering the sexual aspect of it all, though, I'm betting the pay off was satisfying at least, haha. Things dont come out until marriage, sometimes. The story of Eros and Psyche is one of deep and transformative love, but their union was not devoid of hardship. I am one person with one persons experience, of course. I am having a hard time following your questions, Julia. How about choose one aspect and I will try to help, T. Not to be rude, but this is incredibly fatalistic. When/if that turns bad, it could become dark. Playing with someones emotions when these aspects are involved could lead to bad things such as violence. Lilith Conjunct Ascendant Synastry Sun Conjunct Lilith Synastry This connection will burn as hot as the sun! 10. However, Moon/Pluto in conjunction does not have to turn bad. Please, keep giving your opinion. Hats off to your courage. I really have not looked at these aspects in signs, though. The chart never lies, my Friend. He was considered irresistible. I would say that there must be wonderful soul connections that keep down the abuse that would come up without these. Your analysis is lovely. A recent past life will influence every bit of the relationship you have now. I am so thankful to have such a resource like this for guidance. Love, It is opinion, not truth. Yes, I was thinking about this. I wouldnt think my mars/Pluto semisextile is as strong though it can do damage.
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